Udyat, I'm not sure that my German girlfriend would ever forgive me for backing Argentina, so I'm saying a 3-1 win for Die Nationalmannschaft.
Azeus, I still think Low will go for Ozil from the start, and use Schurrle's game-changing ability from the bench with 25/20 minutes to spare.
del hassan, it appears to be underway.
You're right there, union.
Shakira's on stage people, the closing ceremony is in full swing!
Carlos Santana is now ripping out a solo - Brazil might be out, but the party is on at the Maracana!
I have to say, Santana shredding in the middle of a football stadium is pretty damn good. It's like all the best things in the world at once.
All the closing ceremony performers are are stage for the closing song now, with Shakira dancing with her child, and the crowd give them a great reception.
Abe, gotta look good for final day!
Hoernice, that's the end of the closing ceremony I believe - now we're into full game prep mode.
Morty, welcome! You'd have to say if Messi wins the final for Argentina today, he'll be at the level of Pele and Maradona.